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Oahu Prayer Protests and Birther Challenges


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December 01, 2010 | 01:38 PM
Prayer Razing

April 29 started like any other day at the Hawaii state Capitol, with Senate President Colleen Hanabusa inviting a member of the clergy to recite a prayer. But as the reverend began his invocation, another voice rang out: "I object! My name is Mitch Kahle and I object to this prayer on the grounds that it is a violation of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. I object." The interjection was brief and the reverend never missed a beat, finishing to an exaggerated round of "amens."

A few seconds later, Kahle, founder of Hawaii Citizens for the Separation of State and Church, was shoved out of the building by sheriff's deputies, forced to the ground and arrested. The entire incident was captured on film by an associate of Kahle's and news cameras.

Last week, District Court Judge Leslie Hayashi found Kahle not guilty of disorderly conduct. Based on the video evidence, it was an easy call: Kahle, like any citizen, has a right to speak in a public forum; he wasn't physically aggressive and never threatened anyone.

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At the same time, it's doubtful Kahle minds the attention. He appeared on Bill O'Reilly's FOX News show in 2003 and has fought other headline-grabbing battles, including getting the Honolulu Police Department to remove the word "God" from its oath.

Now, Kahle is filing suit, charging, among other things, assault and battery, false arrest and malicious prosecution. In a press release, Kahle's attorneys said there should be "zero tolerance for physical violence against peaceful protest" and that "the state added insult to injury by prosecuting Mr. Kahle while taking no action against his attackers."

BOE Could Be DOA

These days, few people truly have job security. Certainly not members of the state Board of Education (BOE), who were sworn in at a ceremony this week. The group, including Maui rep Leona Rocha-Wilson, shouldn't get comfortable: per a constitutional amendment approved by voters in November, the BOE will be appointed by the Governor, rather than elected by voters, going forward.

The legislature still has to work out the details, and it's possible Governor-elect Abercrombie could keep some or all of the current group intact. But the uncertainty essentially makes these members lame ducks from day one—an inauspicious beginning to Abercrombie's much-heralded "new day."

A New Breed of Birther

When wild conspiracy theories fail, try a blatant misreading of the Constitution. That would seem to be the motto of Charles Kerchner Jr., the latest "concerned citizen" to see his legal challenge against President Obama's eligibility thrown out (this week, by the Supreme Court, without comment).

Unlike the "birthers" who claim Obama wasn't actually born in the United States, Kerchner's challenge hinges on a unique interpretation of Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, specifically the part that prohibits anyone other than a "natural born citizen" from becoming Commander in Chief. According to Kerchner, that applies not only to the candidate but to both of his or her parents—a standard that would have disqualified many Founding Fathers, including Thomas Jefferson.

Lest you think Kerchner is entirely divorced from the the birther crowd (along with reality), he does point to "evidence" on his Web site (protectourliberty.org) that Obama's Hawaii birth certificate may be fake. He also—after asking for money—encourages people to write letters to the editor of their "local or regional newspaper decrying the lack of coverage and the cover-up of the Obama eligibility issue." We can hardly wait.

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    Natural Born Citizen
    December 03, 2010 | 02:23 AM

    Does not mean that both your parents need to be also. It simply means that you must be born on the soil that both your parents are citizens of. This is true in many nations, hence "The Law of Nations" title of the book from where the term was defined.

    The simple fact that Obama admits he was a British subject at birth disqualifies him to become President. If you fully research the issue and use the laws that were in place at the time of his birth you can only come to the conclusion that not only is not a natural born Citizen he was never a citizen of the US. His mother was not old enough to confer citizenship by the laws in place at the time and because his farther was a British subject Obama was born under the jurisdiction of the Crown. His last know citizenship was Indonesian and there is no record of him being naturalized upon his return to the US.

    This is not birther crap, it is the law applied to the facts.

    Greg Goss
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    Jacob, needs to go back to school . . .
    December 03, 2010 | 04:09 AM

    He writes: "Unlike the "birthers" who claim Obama wasn't actually born in the United States, Kerchner's challenge hinges on a unique interpretation of Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, specifically the part that prohibits anyone other than a "natural born citizen" from becoming Commander in Chief. According to Kerchner, that applies not only to the candidate but to both of his or her parents—a standard that would have disqualified many Founding Fathers, including Thomas Jefferson."

    Jacob! You're wrong.

    Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

    See that part, Jacob, "...or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,..."

    The founders grand-fathered themselves in. So Jefferson and the other Founders were indeed eligible.




    Parker Shannon
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    LISTENYOUIDIOTS
    December 03, 2010 | 06:04 PM

    EVERYONE HAS KNOWN THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S FATHER WAS NOT A CITIZEN SINCE THE EARLY TO MID-1990'S. MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM KNEW IT. THE ELECTORS WHO CAST THEIR VOTES FOR HIM KNEW IT. DICK CHENEY KNEW IT WHEN HE COUNTED AND CERTIFIED THE ELECTORAL VOTES IN CONGRESS. CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS KNEW IT WHEN HE SWORE PRESIDENT OBAMA IN. ALL THE JUDGES WHO HAVE GOTTEN THESE DUMB CASES KNEW IT WHEN THEY DISMISSED THEM. AND EVERY JUSTICE ON THE SUPREME COURT KNEW IT WHEN THEY DISMISSED THESE CASES 9 TIMES.

    THE PROBLEM FOR YOU IS THAT "NATURAL BORN" CITIZEN IS NOT DEFINED IN THE CONSTITUTION OR ANYWHERE IN AMERICAN LAW, AND YOU DON'T GET TO DEFINE IT THE WAY YOU WANT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT MATURE ENOUGH TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU LOST THE ELECTION

    LISTENYOUIDIOTS
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    There is no constitutional requirement that a US President have
    December 03, 2010 | 06:16 PM

    I challenge any one who thinks otherwise to find any US Civics book, any scholarly book on Constitutional law or any living Constitutional expert of any standing who agrees with this totally made up citizen-parent requirement. It is simply not there. The Swiss book, The Law of Nations (short English title), is a compilation of international law, that says citizenship requirements vary from country from country. It's Prussian author had very different ideas about citizenship than the English-trained lawyers who wrote our Constitution.

    I have yet to understand how so many people believe something that is in not a single reference work outside birther web sites.

    Malcolm Weeks
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    PMSL at Gregg Goss
    December 04, 2010 | 03:27 AM

    "This is not birther crap, it is the law applied to the facts."

    This coming from a man who fell hook, line, sinker and copy of the Angling Times for 'President' Tim Turner's c RAP scam. Still, at least Gregg was distracted from spreading this kind of nonsense about President Obama for a while.

    Are you back in the saddle, Greg? Did 'President' Tim Turner of Kalamazoo not work out for ya?


    Jenny WRN
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